To Mr Lett..
This article by an investigative reporter must be full of apostate lies then?
Or just the facts..?
i thought it would be important to clearly point in the recent talk by governing body member stephan lett, that he did in fact deliberately lie concerning what he described as lies and false information by apostates, concerning the organization being permissive toward people in the organization who had been involved in pedophilia.
the truth of the matter is thats exactly what the organization has been doing and perhaps for a long time.
the recent candace conti law suit where she was awarded 28 million dollars was levied against the wts for its irresponsible behavior by the elders who gave no notification of the accused jonathan kendrick that he had been charged with pedophilia and spent months in jail for his actions .
To Mr Lett..
This article by an investigative reporter must be full of apostate lies then?
Or just the facts..?
within the organization, the watchtower has final say over who is considered a serial child abuser.
according to a 2012 watchtower memo: not every individual who has sexually abused a child in the past is considered a predator.
the (watchtower), not the local body of elders, determines whether an individual who has sexually abused children in the past will be considered a predator.
within the organization, the watchtower has final say over who is considered a serial child abuser.
according to a 2012 watchtower memo: not every individual who has sexually abused a child in the past is considered a predator.
the (watchtower), not the local body of elders, determines whether an individual who has sexually abused children in the past will be considered a predator.
Within the organization, the Watchtower has final say over who is considered a serial child abuser. According to a 2012 Watchtower memo: “Not every individual who has sexually abused a child in the past is considered a ‘predator.’ The (Watchtower), not the local body of elders, determines whether an individual who has sexually abused children in the past will be considered a ‘predator.’ ”
When his case against the Witnesses concluded in October, a judge awarded Lopez $13.5 million, a remarkably large sum in an era of frequent payouts in abuse cases. The decision rested in part on the Witnesses’ refusal to hand over documents in the case, prompting the frustrated judge to ban the organization from making a defense.
The Lopez case was remarkable for another reason. It forced the Witnesses into a rare admission: Somewhere within the organization, there is a trove of documents with the names and whereabouts of known child sexual abusers in its U.S. congregations.
"During the trial, a senior official from the Jehovah’s Witnesses headquarters, Richard Ashe, told Lopez’s attorney, Irwin Zalkin, that the organization had collected and electronically scanned internal documents on decades of known abuse cases. Ashe said that the Witnesses keep their child sexual abuse reports in a Microsoft SharePoint database but that it would take years to extract.."
"Zalkin called in a software expert who testified that by using simple search terms, the Witnesses could produce the information in less than two months, or maybe two days. At that point, the Watchtower simply refused to provide the database."
During Lopez’s trial, Ashe testified that the Watchtower instructs elders that child abuse must be kept confidential.
“And it directs that that should be kept confidential from prosecuting authorities?” Zalkin asked.
“Yes,” Ashe responded.
i'm sorry that i do not get the time to visit this site very often, but when i do i find it a bit exciting to see what has happened since my last visit.
this post is really about two subjects, but i think that they connect so i will only do one introduction.. child abuse:.
it's almost march and i have not heard whether candace conti or the watchtower won her case before the california state appeal supreme court.
Watchtower ordered to pay $13.5 million in sex abuse case as Gerrit Lösch fails to testify
"In a remarkable twist to this case (not picked up by the media thus far), it has emerged that Judge Lewis issued a “default judgment” against Watchtower after it refused to cooperate with court orders to present key documents and produce the longest serving member of the Governing Body, Gerrit Lösch, for a deposition."
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/watchtower-ordered-to-pay-13-5-million-in-sex-abuse-case-as-gerrit-losch-fails-to-testify
i'm sorry that i do not get the time to visit this site very often, but when i do i find it a bit exciting to see what has happened since my last visit.
this post is really about two subjects, but i think that they connect so i will only do one introduction.. child abuse:.
it's almost march and i have not heard whether candace conti or the watchtower won her case before the california state appeal supreme court.
Regarding the Conti case:
According to Chaserious's thread, the decision should be made within 90 days (from 14.1.15)
"The panel will issue a written opinion deciding the appeal within 90 days."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/8370005/conti-appeal-preview-oral-argument-jan-14
Case updates are here and you can get email updates to keep you up to date:
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=A136641
yorkshire ripper peter sutcliffe 'planning his own jehovah's witness funeral' at broadmoor.
10 february 2015. while charles manson is busy avoiding being displayed in a glass coffin by his now ex-fiancee, peter sutcliffe is managing his own mortality within the confines of broadmoor hospital.. .
the yorkshire ripper apparently met with funeral directors to plan his own send-off.. sutcliffe, 68, contacted holmes and family funeral directors, whose office is three miles away from the high security hospital in berkshire.. he apparently wishes for the ceremony to be performed in line with his jehovahs witness beliefs.. sutcliffe was handed 20 life sentences for brutally murdering 13 women in the north of england between 1975 and 1980, and attempting to murder seven others.. police believed his killing spree started after he was conned out of money by a prostitute and her pimp.. however, sutcliffe later claimed the voice of god had commanded him to undertake the killings.. the independent (lots of photos of broadmoor psychiatric prison).
Him and Jimmy Savile were supposedly friends. He claimed to be 'cured' back in 2012, if you read this article. What a fine 'Witness' this news should give to people in the community...
"During the calls, which the Sun reports were made every Tuesday and lasted 15 minutes, he also defends Jimmy Savile, as police investigate 300 cases of alleged abuse by the former BBC star across three decades.
He claimed the victims were talking 'rubbish' and insisted his old friend was innocent.
Sutcliffe, whose reign of terror spanned between 1975 and 1980 in one of the most notorious serial killer cases in British history, was also taped boasting about how many visitors and penpals, some as young as 21, he had."
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
A Jehovah's Witness recently gave me the following response to the question posed in this topic (Why does a loving God allow animals to suffer?):
"God is allowing mankind the freedom that he rebelled for- which also includes animal abuse."
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http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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It's difficult to recover from being in an organisation that insists it isn't a cult yet bears many cult characteristics. It's difficult to share or explain to members of other religious groups, or health or other professionals. It can be difficult to sort out in your own head.
A documentary Truth be Told went on digital release on 19 Dec. Directed by New York filmmaker and ex Witness Gregorio Smith, it's an exceptionally balanced and informative doco for anyone who is curious about what life in the JWs is really like. Based on in depth interviews with six ex Witnesses, plus staged insights into Kingdom Hall doctrine, the doco is currently being translated into a score of languages for international distribution as an important cultural document and fascinating viewing for anyone curious to understand more about the JW sect/cult/religion.
Go here to see trailers including generous snippets from interview footage, and to download http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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"TRUTH BE TOLD is a new feature-length documentary film about growing up in the Jehovah's Witnesses religion.
The title refers to the Jehovah's Witnesses’ perception that their beliefs are 'the truth'. In this film, former Jehovah's Witnesses candidly discuss the spiritual, emotional and psychological harm inflicted by the religion. They reveal experiences including the effects of proselytizing door-to-door, shunning non-observant family and friends, suspension of critical thinking, suffering the discouragement of pursuing dreams like gaining a higher education, and missing other societal holidays and customs. The abuses explored in TRUTH BE TOLD are part of a wider examination into the culture of undue influence within the Jehovah’s Witnesses religion that continues to violate the basic human rights of members and their families worldwide."
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
see last item:.
"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".